it is a bug?

[mermaid]

I saw a marshal in the rating of underground lakes tournament
as I know, the lower rank players can't attack with domain seizure an underground lake
so, that player was temporary suzerain or it is a bug?

[FairyLite]

I was suzerain when the tournament started

[mermaid]

oh, I understand
just wondering... it hit your stomach hard, the suzerain rank?

[FairyLite]

sometimes it is necessary to use my mobilization spell if I lose troops hitting a large ruin 4 or want extra troops to attack an enemy demon/dark elf for faction points. finding underground lake is a nice bonus before going back to rank 4

[mermaid]

and sometimes you want to paralyze troops or hero to a suzerain and the game prevents you to do it if you are a lower rank player
I still think it isn't fair
the game's admin should cancel the UL taken at the moment when the player goes down to a lower rank

[FairyLite]

don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, they will not even take away royal artefacts from players who have been banned for cheating

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[mermaid]

oh, my dear, you are not so important than I die for you
I only share my opinion
yes, I admit, I have a ,,nail" against the forever marshall. maybe they name this kind of play a good strategy. I name it cowardice. in my opinion, only the people unable to take the responsibility of their own action choose this kind of play... or this kind of life
that's why I proposed, on other topics, the players become suzerains after a while, whatever would be their force of troops

[FairyLite]

I played this game as a suzerain for almost 4 years on the UK server, I am missing nothing by staying at rank 4 and my timetable is the only one I am interested in. I will go suzerain when I am ready to

[mermaid]

who don't know we will teach him, who can't we will help him, who not want we will force him (Vladimir Ilici Lenin)
while you are ready to damn the suzerain ad shelter to your rank, you should be ready to their reaction, that's mean to be suzerain
if you are not ready to become suzerain, stay away from them since you will be ready to accept their reaction too
PS. me too, I come here from UK server, me too, I was suzerain there, not very strong, only 2,5 billions force of troops, I played in one of strongest clan there, but there was there, here is here, why we should bury the dead?

[FairyLite]

...... while you are ready to damn the suzerain ad shelter to your rank, you should be ready to their reaction, that's mean to be suzerain
if you are not ready to become suzerain, stay away from them since you will be ready to accept their reaction too ....

rats, and you were doing so well

care to translate the comment above because I haven't a clue what you are talking about. I have never bothered you, our cities are not even close

[mermaid]

what makes you think I speak about me? I never said something like that
that's the difference between a molly dropped girl, customed to obtain everything with few big crocodile tears and an adult responsible person: the girl always think only to her self, the other, think to the entire community
or you can tell me with the hand on the heart, you never damn a suzerain?
and it isn't only about it
if you are not prepared to be suzerain, stay away from the benefits to the suzerains too... like a lvl 2 artifact in an underground lakes tournament. in fact, you robb that artifact from the player -A SUZERAIN - who is number 27 in rating

[FairyLite]

are you talking about casting a spell? of course I have cast spells on suzerains. I have also had suzerains cast spells on me, it is part of the game. there is no rank rules when it comes to using a scroll or is that something you would like to change as well

already told you I was suzerain when the UL tournament started

and not that it is any of your business but it would not surprise me to find out I am at least twice your age, maybe it is you who needs to grow up and focus on your own game instead of the games of other player's

[ontariomoderate]

I think it is fair to switch between ranks from time to time. Its more coward to stay low *...
Tho the worst in my opinion is that long time suz temple all day and still curse or steal all ruins

[mermaid]

[*]and not that it is any of your business but it would not surprise me to find out I am at least twice your age, maybe it is you who needs to grow up and focus on your own game instead of the games of other player's

1) if you would have twice my age, you would bee in Guinnes Book, like the oldier people on the Earth
2)I started to play here in april 2018, I became suzerain in December 30, 2018... in 7 months I grow up from marshall to 1,1 billion force of troops- alive combat troops, not heallers in resurector, so I no need your advices
3) since I read first time the topics on this forum, I noticed your atitude against the both-hack, against the supposed multiaccount used by the ex- Soviet Union players; you named traitor a suzerain, only because he took you a salt lake... more, you paralyse one time a week his troops and his hero, while the game allowed you. (i not watch you, I only have a developed spirit of observation)
I noticed your walk here... first with Flyin, after with ardenorcrush, now with manunited... all strong players, who could help you indirectly to take whatever you want. if manunited stop to play now, with whom you will try get closer, manticora or tiger him self?
to not remember you, that you, a player unable to take any risk, suggest me this isnt the apropriate kind of game for me
so, you pretend a fair play atitude from others players, while you not have at all, this atitude
that was the point of this discussion
a parallel between you pretend from others, and you offer to others
and no offence, but I remember you, this is a war game. if you are not prepared to take the inherent risk of this game, maybe this kind of games isnt apropriate for you and you should search a more peacefull game
for me is the end of this discussion. in a way, you are right, I have more precious way to use my time than spend it with you

[FairyLite]

what does your choice of becoming suzerain quickly have to do with my choice to take my time and slowly build my account. we do not all play the game the same way. I have been on this server since Oct of 2015 and the only rank I rushed thru was 1 because there was no purpose in staying that rank

as for point #3, it is hard to know where to begin with all the misinformation and fantasy. my 1st clan was the Bairs because my mentor was there. after about 2 months I left the Bairs and moved far east. Flyin was in that area but he was no friend and constantly attacked any outer domain I had because I refused to give him flags or tell him if I found a salt lake. I was on my own for over 4 months until Baccheus asked if I wanted to join clan Immortall. when I left Immortall and moved to the area I am in now I was again on my own for about 9 months until ArdenorCrush asked me to join him. have no idea where you are going with the bots and cheaters comment, but yeah I don't like them and think the game would be much better if admin did something to get rid of them.

paralyzing a hero/troops for a week? please give details. I am sure there are many players that would like to know how this can be accomplished, me included

as for the traitor, don't believe everything you are told. or than again, maybe you know the truth and just lack a moral compass as he does. me, I take loyalty to my clan serious. I may not always agree with decisions/alliances made but I do respect them and would never consider selling out a clan mate or ally no matter what my personal opinion was of them

[morriddin]

[*]and not that it is any of your business but it would not surprise me to find out I am at least twice your age, maybe it is you who needs to grow up and focus on your own game instead of the games of other player's

1) if you would have twice my age, you would bee in Guinnes Book, like the oldier people on the Earth
2)I started to play here in april 2018, I became suzerain in December 30, 2018... in 7 months I grow up from marshall to 1,1 billion force of troops- alive combat troops, not heallers in resurector, so I no need your advices
3) since I read first time the topics on this forum, I noticed your atitude against the both-hack, against the supposed multiaccount used by the ex- Soviet Union players; you named traitor a suzerain, only because he took you a salt lake... more, you paralyse one time a week his troops and his hero, while the game allowed you. (i not watch you, I only have a developed spirit of observation)
I noticed your walk here... first with Flyin, after with ardenorcrush, now with manunited... all strong players, who could help you indirectly to take whatever you want. if manunited stop to play now, with whom you will try get closer, manticora or tiger him self?
to not remember you, that you, a player unable to take any risk, suggest me this isnt the apropriate kind of game for me
so, you pretend a fair play atitude from others players, while you not have at all, this atitude
that was the point of this discussion
a parallel between you pretend from others, and you offer to others
and no offence, but I remember you, this is a war game. if you are not prepared to take the inherent risk of this game, maybe this kind of games isnt apropriate for you and you should search a more peacefull game
for me is the end of this discussion. in a way, you are right, I have more precious way to use my time than spend it with you

If so, how do you know about ArdenorCrush or Flyin??? They left before that time.

[Hexxus]

I don't know what this thread is about, only skimmed. I will only say one thing:

FairyLite you are one of those people who can't understand that english isn't someone's first language. So everything you read you take way too literally without giving the translation any wiggle room.
Plenty of examples of you being incredulous over a response that you've woefully misinterpreted.
My advice is to just take a step back while reading a message from someone who translates or does not speak the language as well as you, because often they mean something you can easily understand and, but their words are different. You'll find they have often responded in the correct way, but the words mean different things in different languages. (Language is complicated)

I was going to use the example where you thought she meant "paralyzed for a week" and say that she obviously means that paralyze happens once per week (cooldown/spell preparation)... ... ... but that's not even how she wrote it, you just misinterpreted that anyways.

She says "you paralyse one time a week" aka "you paralyse one time per week" ... and somehow you've read this as "you cast paralyse on us one time ... (and it lasted) for a whole week"

I can see how you might have thought that was the case, but it obviously was not if you just took an extra second to read, especially if you're going to invest all this time to argue back and forth over the details you are writing to each other.

[FairyLite]

it is personal. someone she knows chose to make an enemy of me and she can not accept it.

and google translate works very well if you are willing to put in the time to make sure your words come across as intended. while it is not allowed on this forum I have often communicated in languages other than my own thru game messaging and have always been able to say exactly what I meant to although I will admit some languages take much more effort than others

[Hexxus]

and google translate works very well if you are willing to put in the time to make sure your words come across as intended. while it is not allowed on this forum I have often communicated in languages other than my own thru game messaging and have always been able to say exactly what I meant to although I will admit some languages take much more effort than others

Then you are lucky and also you are incorrect. Google translate is very much still a work in progress. You'll notice the only phrases that are verified are the ones that display a little shield with a check mark in them; which you'll also notice are only common in simple phrases.
When you start talking in abstracts that only make sense in context of the game then the translations will get worse and worse.
Phrases like, "sending missions so his log is red" or "vision to break his mirrors" are not going to fair well.
Notably, from my experience, the word "capital" where I'm referring to a city translates in Russian to something like, "the table" and so much confusion is created.
Like you, I've used Google translate plenty, swapping the languages back and forth to try to be sure what I'm sending is what I intend and still I've gotten myself into some embarrassing and humorous situations.
It isn't exact.