My Lands: Black Gem Hunting

Grail relocates always at the same time, but a single chosen time is sure not equally good for everyone...
As simple solution i suggest a second grail "AM" type which is shifted by 12h. Once a new grail spawns its type is randomly selected "AM" or "PM" and theres some visual indicator to players which type it is/when it relocates.

Benefits for individuals: Higher chance to see a neutral grail.

Global benefits: Fairness, motivating players to be more active, additional chance for action/big battles.

Though I don't know the best solution, I agree with this.

can't see it making a difference, the cheats will just run their bots at the second time to find it. only possible hope for this game is if admin actually got rid of the main accounts of those they catch cheating and that is something they refuse to do

FairyLite wrote:can't see it making a difference, the cheats will just run their bots at the second time to find it. only possible hope for this game is if admin actually got rid of the main accounts of those they catch cheating and that is something they refuse to do

Not sure if you really understand Grail entirely. Some of what you say might be true, but others including myself have held the Grail plenty (includes your team). Scripts are not the end-all to the Grail.

However, to the topic's point, the Grail is limited to a certain time of day which inevitably favors some players over others.

While I think changing the time might be useful, I don't think changing it while the grail is out is very useful. I think a better method might be an in game message to all players that the grail has appeared, moved, and disappeared. And each time it appears a specific "move time" could be set.

On the other hand, I would tend to say this is the US server and it is meant to provide a platform for US players to play on and 2000 is a very common time for people to be available.

Maybe I suggest changing to one of the servers where 2000 is a beneficial time for you? (this is of course out of self interest)

manticora wrote:While I think changing the time might be useful, I don't think changing it while the grail is out is very useful. I think a better method might be an in game message to all players that the grail has appeared, moved, and disappeared. And each time it appears a specific "move time" could be set.

Perhaps something like a random time like how perfect buildings event happens each day? With a message included about the movement.
I actually find this interesting, but not sure how that would jive with the current "tradition" of grail being 24 hours worth. Maybe including a minimum so that range or something to avoid strange scenarios where the grail is only somewhere for a few minutes or hour before the next day's random event triggers (would be rare, but could happen).

manticora wrote:On the other hand, I would tend to say this is the US server and it is meant to provide a platform for US players to play on and 2000 is a very common time for people to be available.

Maybe I suggest changing to one of the servers where 2000 is a beneficial time for you? (this is of course out of self interest)

You seem to be talking to someone directly, is it me or Ontario?
I am a US player and I can somewhat agree 20:00 is a common time for the US, I don't know if it is entirely "fair". It was also unclear to me if you agreeing on a time change or you are mocking.

manticora wrote:While I think changing the time might be useful, I don't think changing it while the grail is out is very useful. I think a better method might be an in game message to all players that the grail has appeared, moved, and disappeared. And each time it appears a specific "move time" could be set.

On the other hand, I would tend to say this is the US server and it is meant to provide a platform for US players to play on and 2000 is a very common time for people to be available.

Maybe I suggest changing to one of the servers where 2000 is a beneficial time for you? (this is of course out of self interest)

You didnt understand my suggestion. I proposed that the type is selected when it spawns, so every grail is worth 24h. Just the relocation time depend on its type (8am vs 8pm). This would be closest to the current procedure and should have the best effect with lowest effort.

A rnd time does in my opinion have more disadvantages: Players should be able to prepare for capping it in advance, otherwise i expect it will be just boring when the first get it from neutral and nothing follows...

My preference is to get grail in the morning rather than at late day. That way i could check for attacks after cap without staying up all night plus the next day. On the other hand going to sleep when most of the time until relocation is up has hardly any risk.
But since the suggestion is fair for the whole server it shouldnt matter if i benefit or not. Actually it means some got more than the fair amount for the whole time since grail exists...
I want that its fair in future. I dont require that it is changed to my personal prime time and those who used to 8pm go empty.

And finally: pls name a ml server with 12h shifted time zone i could join. That would be the region of china but first ml has no server there and snd i cant read chinese.
So you will still have to deal with me on this server for a while.

ontariomoderate wrote:I proposed that the type is selected when it spawns, so every grail is worth 24h. Just the relocation time depend on its type (8am vs 8pm). This would be closest to the current procedure and should have the best effect with lowest effort.

Maybe I misunderstand the idea as well. In my understanding if the time is random, then it won't be 24hr rotation -- either less or more. Do you see how I understand it? Maybe you mean that it would be at minimum 24 hour and then randomly move after that?

I suggested that there are 2 types, Grail AM and Grail PM. AM has 8am relocation time and PM 8pm. Capping a AM grail is worth 24h such as it is with PM grail now. Both types can exist but its type doesnt change. Just when a new one spawns the type is rolled again.

And finally: pls name a ml server with 12h shifted time zone i could join. That would be the region of china but first ml has no server there and snd i cant read chinese.
So you will still have to deal with me on this server for a while.[/quote]



Spaniard server, French Server, German Server, those still alive and they have the central european time zone, this means for example the time grail move on Spanish server for example is 20.00 server time that in USA server means 13.00 server time due the time difference

French and German servers also keep the same time zone GMT +1, this means 7 hour difference with the time on USA server and the UK server has 6hr time difference so when grail move in UK server is 14.00 hrs USA server time.

I begin playin on spanish server while living in Europe but started playing on USA server as moved to America.