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manunited
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Cheaters

#1 Post by manunited »

This is list of players which Tiger984, Tankels_fb and Facevalue use for taking salt lakes:

1. Florida (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0
2. TerraD (sizerein) hero xp 0, ruins 0
3. BaibaKo (esquiere) hero xp 0, ruins 0
4. KoloTon (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan CCCP
5. service (sizerein) hero xp 950, ruins 0, clan CCCP
6. 13may (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0
7. Nikname (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 7M, clan PRIDE
8. vodka (captain) hero xp 8k, ruins 0
9. 4iburashka (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
10. piterpen (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0
11. WIMP (captain) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
12. rubi (captain) hero xp 0, ruins 0
13. tilk (captain) hero xp 2k, ruins 5M, clan SG1
14. mannfred (captain) hero xp 2k, ruins 1M, clan CCCP (once already banned for bot-hack with tiger984)
15. asisae (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
16. PRIDYROK (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0
17. allstar1 (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
18. NARKOMAN (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0
19. MORKVA (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0
20. popay1 (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
21. bamburg (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
22. chip1 (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
23. SOBAKA (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0
24. titan2016 (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0
25. VANDAL (master) hero xp 0, ruins 0
26. niro1 (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
27. MrPirog (sizerein) hero xp 800, ruins 41
28. DuBrut (sizerein) hero xp 720, ruins 5572, clan CCCP
29. bypd (esquire) hero xp 0, ruins 0, clan SG1
30. viskas (master) hero xp 1688, ruins 484
31. xaris (captain) hero xp 0, ruins 0

all of them have more then 250M of faction.

soon will player SOVA get 250M of faction with hero xp 0 and ruins destroyed 0.

this players all come from 3 russians clans: SG1, CCCP and PRIDE.

tiger984 is in clan S N G, that is full of esquires which he will use to give them army for 250M of faction and take salt lakes.

that is the reason he holds salt lake on 63-5 (his capital is on 12-4), that is how facevalue hold salt lake on 64-3 (his capital 19-12). before that he was holding salt lake on 59-3. tankels_fb also holds few salt lakes.

or ban them forever or that quest so no more multi accounts
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#2 Post by BlackPhoenix »

Yes that's right,Administrators pretend not to know what's going on,
and if they know that every lake on thIt's a shame what is happening here on the server, and how many players are damagede map is held by players anywhere Tiger984,tankels_fb and Facevalue,
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#3 Post by Hexxus »

The case provided is very interesting -- I think there should be a change in the quest reward to reveal a Salt Lake.
Changing this would seem to eliminate this abuse.
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Re: Cheaters

#4 Post by McFarlin »

Agree

There is abuse, i do not however think simply putting an end to the lake reward is doing enough.

Take lakes away from everyone and allow those who have used this to defraud the game out of hundreds if not thousands of dollars to keep playing? Great plan.
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Re: Cheaters

#5 Post by BlackPhoenix »

And when you stop the abuse of this quest?
After we al leave game?
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Re: Cheaters

#6 Post by McFarlin »

A few missed Points here in the original posting.

With the lakes ,if obtained by breaking game rules, a player is stealing income from the game and the owners.

How many flag tournaments can you buy chance to find and explore exceleration with if you have free lakes?
How many underground lakes are gotten with these gems?
Its the same players listed above who almost always win these tournaments as well.

How much premium time was paid for with ill gotten gems?

How many artifacts were purchased with these ill gotten gems?


Not only is this stealing from the game and its owners, it is wrong on so many levels that cheating players get artifacts that would otherwise go to paying, game supporting players. If players are not paying then there will be no game as the server does not pay for itself. You run off all paying players then even the cheaters will not have a game to cheat.



I think the lake reward needs to go.
The players found to have gained from this need to go.
All accounts tied to them should go as well.

Each account cost 1 dollar. Each account reward salt lake value is 100 dollars average
So paying 3-4 dollars a month in order to defraud game 300-400 dollars a month money lost
Very smart, you win 3-4 Dollars and loose 300-400
STOP LOOSING MONEY, FIX IT!!!!!
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RIQUEN
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#7 Post by RIQUEN »

McFarlin wrote:A few missed Points here in the original posting.

With the lakes ,if obtained by breaking game rules, a player is stealing income from the game and the owners.

!

Key element is how this work...

new account get faction how?

killing small enemys?

better said killing friend army, preferable healers... but that means staged battle right?

so staged battle is prohibited, staged battle is illegal.. any account with 250 million faction using staged battle----> ILLEGAL, FRAUD, ROBBERY

How hard to understand????
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#8 Post by manticora »

Does admin have any plan to stop the cheating? Player tankels_fb was previously deleted for cheating and now is back winning all tournaments and finding all lakes....suspicious. Not to mention everything else already discussed.
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mortis2
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Re: Cheaters

#9 Post by mortis2 »

when the admin writes that it is possible to donate, buy, sell Salt Lake
so must check the origin of Salt Lake
Sell / Buyers
Getting the position SL is only possible:
scroll, faction, explorer
If they do not submit 100% of the information, grant a BAN
There's no need to change the rules
The rules not being able to donate, sell SL
Admin has to respond to a specific complaint
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#10 Post by RIQUEN »

mortis2 wrote:when the admin writes that it is possible to donate, buy, sell Salt Lake
so must check the origin of Salt Lake
Sell / Buyers
Getting the position SL is only possible:
scroll, faction, explorer
If they do not submit 100% of the information, grant a BAN
There's no need to change the rules
The rules not being able to donate, sell SL
Admin has to respond to a specific complaint

who is asking change rules?
no body asking rules change, we discusing remove salt lake reward because being abused.

why?
1 many accounts being used as salt lake factory(see manunited list) by staged battle faction increase. staged battle is prohibited.
2 salt lakes obtained trough staged battle are illegal
3 seems game administration is UNCAPABLE of effectively stopping staged battle, multiboxing, bot ussage... we ask remove salt lake from rewards
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#11 Post by McFarlin »

Shocker that the new battle of the day (03/17/2018) is two players who are now just over 250 million faction.
Two new lake reward.

$200.00 more lost to the game and fraud.
manunited
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#12 Post by manunited »

that is reason why is facevalue on 33-9 now, there is salt lake he got from one of those 2 "players"
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Re: Cheaters

#13 Post by McFarlin »

After thinking some more about all of this, it makes me wonder how many of the listed accounts are or were also the apprentice of the players listed?

How many free artifacts were gained from this as well.?
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mortis2
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Re: Cheaters

#14 Post by mortis2 »

You're talking about the losses in the game
You're talking about changing the rules
You're talking about canceling the Salt Lake reward
I'm talking about players who cheat
It is necessary to get BAN forever
The cheater buys the benefits in the game
It is necessary to realize that the game is based on BG
Nothing else in this game is not


Such changes will never happen in the game
The US server is not the only My Lands server
And if the Salt Lake reward:
So cancel the reward SL
The reward will be two artifacts 3 *

It is necessary for the admin to check the origin of Salt Lake
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#15 Post by Natfka »

manunited, please specify nicknames KoloTon and piterpen.
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#16 Post by manunited »

Natfka wrote:manunited, please specify nicknames KoloTon and piterpen.
KiloTon and piterpen2014.

Also you can check players: klaksona, DonaldTrump, Vladello, samogon, kolobok, KORONA, COP. same parameters as before. 0 hero xp, 0 ruins, all have more then 250M of faction.
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Re: Cheaters

#17 Post by Natfka »

The players have been checked. Those, who were violating the rules, have been punished.
Thank you for your help!
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