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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 04:30 
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Dear administrators. This server without withdrawal. Where in this case, missing pearls? 90% of the ruins just 1 thing!
I ask you to check the settings of the server!
Many come here to play "for the soul." Yes, we are ready to buy pearls within reasonable limits. But not so!


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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 11:24 
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ZZZor wrote:
Dear administrators. This server without withdrawal. Where in this case, missing pearls? 90% of the ruins just 1 thing!
I ask you to check the settings of the server!
Many come here to play "for the soul." Yes, we are ready to buy pearls within reasonable limits. But not so!



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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 13:36 
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Where in this case, missing pearls? 90% of the ruins just 1 thing!

You have to understand the randomization is for all ruins on the server.
This means your area could (unluckily) be getting 1 bg ruins, while another section of the map is getting (luckily) stacked with 50-100+ gem ruins.
It's all in the random math.

It's the same way you can send 10 explorers out on 2% death chance missions and half of them die, it doesn't mean there's actually a 50% chance of death, its because it's 2% for the entire server.
You have to think about every time they DON'T die, not just by you, but by everyone who is using an explorer on the server.
This chance overlaps with ruins and you gotta think about EVERY ruin on the server.
I'm confident you are not able to see every part of the map and see 90% of ruins have 1 bg. This is inaccurate.
It's just bad luck where you are. :roll:

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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 13:47 
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Sorry, but this is nonsense. Show me 5 screenshots fresh ruins with 50 + pearls. I opened my tenure at 1-1 10-10 20-20 30-1 40-10 50-20 everywhere ruins 1 pearls.


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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 13:51 
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About how many gems are you earning per day? Per week? ( farming ruins consistently )

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This fact is this isn't nonsense, because I've farmed plenty of 50-100+ ruins.

I can provide you screenshots.
But only after I eat the ruin first so you can't steal it. :lol: ;)

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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 13:52 
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fresh screenshots show right now.


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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 13:54 
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Hexxus wrote:
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About how many gems are you earning per day? Per week? ( farming ruins consistently )
I earn 30 jewels in the night, because killing 30 ruins at night and in each one a gem.


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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 14:02 
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ZZZor wrote:
Hexxus wrote:
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About how many gems are you earning per day? Per week? ( farming ruins consistently )
I earn 30 jewels in the night, because killing 30 ruins at night and in each one a gem.

I earn on average ~1,000 gems per week or ~140 gems a day. And I hit much less than 30 ruins a day...maybe 10..
I've been keeping a chart of this so that is how I know...tracking my gem earnings, experience gain, and scroll/artifact finding...

I'm telling you it's all in the randomization. Sometimes I hit a streak of 1gem ruins, sometimes it's a streak of 100's, sometimes it's in the middle.
All you can do is eat what ya can!

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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 14:11 
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ZZZor wrote:
fresh screenshots show right now.

For clarification, do you only want screenshots of 50-100+ or anything more than 1 bg?

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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 14:33 
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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 14:35 
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Now I see the ruins of the sixth level 7. All 1 pearls and 10 ruins of the fifth level, all one pearl.
per night I killed 30 ruins, can provide reports. All the ruins of one pearl. It's no coincidence that a server error.


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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 18:17 
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ZZZor wrote:
Now I see the ruins of the sixth level 7. All 1 pearls and 10 ruins of the fifth level, all one pearl.
per night I killed 30 ruins, can provide reports. All the ruins of one pearl. It's no coincidence that a server error.

Also, you could be right, maybe there was some update where they reduced the amount of BG's you can find in ruins.
How long have you been finding only 1gem ruins? Is it just recently?
Have you ever found 50+?
I know for sure I've found plenty.


I currently do not see any, and I have run into a streak of low gem ruins, but I still believe it is the randomization.
I will work to get you some screenshots of fresh/recent ruins 50+ while investigating..

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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2014, 18:45 
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I think there is block how many BP can be invested in game. e.g.

Server starts with investition of 100.000 BG's. There are always 100.000BG's on server unless player buy some BG's (add to server) or withdraw from server. Now. There's a lot of players. Each of them has some amount of BG's on their accounts. Some of them are collecting to powerful artifacts. There won't be more BG's until they spent what they have.

But that's only theory.

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WaY wrote:
I think there is block how many BP can be invested in game. e.g.

Server starts with investition of 100.000 BG's. There are always 100.000BG's on server unless player buy some BG's (add to server) or withdraw from server. Now. There's a lot of players. Each of them has some amount of BG's on their accounts. Some of them are collecting to powerful artifacts. There won't be more BG's until they spent what they have.

But that's only theory.

I've thought this too on other servers, but since there's no money withdrawal here I didn't think something like this would be implemented..
This could very well be, but maybe not that they need to spend their BG's but that someone needs to purchase black gems with real money?

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PostPosted: 06 Feb 2014, 02:02 
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exactly. This server must be different, but it does not differ from those where you can withdraw money. I would like to hear the comments of the administration.


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PostPosted: 06 Feb 2014, 17:04 
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ZZZor wrote:
exactly. This server must be different, but it does not differ from those where you can withdraw money.

I'm confused, you say it must be different but also that it is exactly the same. :|
What did you mean?

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PostPosted: 07 Feb 2014, 02:24 
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structure the appearance of pearls on a server with no withdrawals and withdrawal must be different!


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PostPosted: 07 Feb 2014, 09:33 
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ZZZor wrote:
structure the appearance of pearls on a server with no withdrawals and withdrawal must be different!

Oh, you are saying the SHOULD be different, not that they MIGHT be, I see now.

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Perhaps we are onto something here as my investigation is proving fruitless for now.

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PostPosted: 07 Feb 2014, 21:26 
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ZZZor wrote:
50+

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File comment: Recent/Fresh 6* ruin with 70 gems
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Though rare, it seems my team of investigators has found evidence they still exist! :P

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PostPosted: 08 Feb 2014, 11:46 
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this exception to the rule, a month ago, these ruins were many: (


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PostPosted: 08 Feb 2014, 14:06 
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Escuse me, but i seen ruin with 0 bg)


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Savini wrote:
Escuse me, but i seen ruin with 0 bg)

Are you sure? Can you provide a screenshot?

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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2014, 14:21 
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No he cant :P
no such ruin i can bet.... however its same game / server as anywhere else...

pits & and other outer domains / perls ruins and such generaly appears before a tournament
then ruins have more pearls, and after they have 1 its lived years same as every server..
its a pattern and is almost same every time / everywhere.

Kapuya ! :lol:


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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2014, 14:27 
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The encyclopaedia states: "The Black Gems (BG) amount depends on players' payments of the server. It is possible that you find Ruins with 0 BG."

I haven't seen any yet.


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PostPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 03:39 
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Apparently the administration heard me. In the ruins appeared pearls.


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PostPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 13:17 
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Eywa has heard you. :)


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PostPosted: 25 Mar 2014, 16:02 
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Or not...


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PostPosted: 25 Mar 2014, 16:21 
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90% of the time = 1 bg in my area

depend on how ppl are buying BG around in your area i guess , after the last ACTIOn there was more BG in ruins but only for a days or two after it's back to 1bg :/


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PostPosted: 26 Mar 2014, 13:46 
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I think it has been just fine...

People hitting the dry runs of 1 gem for a little bit and they think it's the end of the world...

I'm still getting good randomization of ruin loot on gems, there really isn't any issue imo.

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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2014, 07:46 
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ZZZor wrote:
Dear administrators. This server without withdrawal. Where in this case, missing pearls? 90% of the ruins just 1 thing!
I ask you to check the settings of the server!
Many come here to play "for the soul." Yes, we are ready to buy pearls within reasonable limits. But not so!



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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2014, 02:40 
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Rotten project. Pearl no. I see no reason to continue wasting your time. Place your order!!


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