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PostPosted: 01 Oct 2018, 16:27 
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October 1, 2018.
After 4 days, the ROYAL FLAG TOURNAMENT will end.
A few days before the tournament, I began to prepare. Moved cities closer to enemies and allies who are willing to help win the tournament.
As of October 1, 8 am on server time, I was in the lead. Victory is near. The second place is occupied by the player, who has less than 15 sets of flags.
I look through cities and a copy of neighbors on flags, and here there is a message:
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what do I think I could do that I was blocked, for what could I punish? what a contractual battle.
I know that I did not negotiate with anyone, so someone complained. And once they complained, the battle report and time could be learned only in the tavern. We go into it. The first mention of my account was on the 26th of September at 8:51.
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Was this a contractual battle?
According to the definition of a contractual fight, the battle is for the benefit of both participants. We look at the fight. Is it advantageous for me: I am an apostate, I attack a player without a hero (I do not get experience), I go on a mission with a robbery without nsilshchikov (I do not get resources). You say you got a faction rating? so after all, and I'm going to the player of his own race, the same dark faction as me. At the time of the battle, I was in the status of an apostate, the player to whom the attack was committed - was not and at the moment is not an apostate.
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A player without a hero and without porters decided to rob a player of his faction to get a negative factional rating ... And the administration calls this a contractual fight?
But to whom was this battle all the better? now it becomes clear that the beneficiary is the player who tried to mislead the administration. By issuing the usual capture of the flags by a contractual battle, the player complaining did not bother to prove that the defender is an apostate, that someone from the participating in the battle is advantageous. In turn, the incompetent administrator, not to check on the fact whether the fight was contractual, not checking it for the benefit of even one of the parties - blocked both players.
Either an irresponsible employee works in the administration, who, without checking information, creates arbitrariness that affects the course of the players' tournament table, and in general clans (after all, in order to win the tournament, clans help the 1st player from the clan to collect as many sets of flags as possible). This person substitutes both players and all clans. Either it is advantageous for this administrator to block the best collector, since this administrator has an account in the game and he "enjoys his official position" !!!
We will return to this issue, consider fights. The next day, another battle took place. The player in the second place in the standings attacked also with the mission of robbery.
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So which of these two fights is more suitable for describing a "contractual battle"? Of all the possible bonuses listed above, there is no experience as a hero or resources, but there is a factional rating. And here you can not argue, light fraction against the dark faction. But these players were not blocked. Why?
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a new fight with my participation. I'm not familiar with the defender, neither of which clans with him crossed. While watching the neighboring cities for the presence of flags, I saw a part of the troops not hidden in the shelter. Mercenaries demons do good damage, and since I have enough mercenaries, I think losing 2K mercenaries is not so annoying as a player to whom I destroyed 10k mercenaries. Yes, in battle there is a benefit to me on the fractional rating, but the game is a military strategy, if we are not allies, then I can destroy the troops of another player in any way. So I sent 2 thousand mercenaries to destroy 10 thousand mercenaries of the opponent (I did not communicate with this player, did not agree.) I teach him to hide troops for the night in the shelter :D )
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Well, the last fight. This player, I spent two nights spoiling explorers and destroying troops, because in my opinion he helps my opponents in moving forward in the standings. The first night was destroyed by 1 detachment, the battle was without losses, I did not get into the tavern. He left spells in his city: the chance of the death of the researcher + 12% and the speed of the researchers' missions + 120%. On the second day, he saw another squadron looking through the city. I repeated the campaign. If there were more troops, there would not be losses. As proof that the fight is not contractual - you can see the reports and you'll see that my hero has recently been wearing a ring that reduces the speed of researchers and a hat that increases the chance of death of researchers.
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I hope here it is clear that for a contractual battle of either side negative effects are not desirable.

So that's it. In this regard, please consider my complaint on the following positions:
1) Cancel the blocking of my account, and cancel the lock for 1 day (as if the next time there is a similar lie to my address - then my account will be blocked for 3 or more days).
2) Check the administrator who blocked accounts, because of unverified information. Conduct a test of his professional suitability for this position. Check if he has an account in the game, if so - then change the administrator, because a person uses his position to achieve results in the game. If there is no account, check it for corruption.
3) Make a warning to the player who gave knowingly false information about the fight. Up to the temporary blocking of the account. (why temporary? because I want to later punish this player for slander)
4) I ask you to finish the tournament with the indicators in the standings as of October 1st 9 am. Since I was blocked by mistake by the administrators, and the rest of the players had a lot of time to fix the standings. This is not an honest game. Or as of October 2, 9h. 27 minutes to return the values ​​of the day's prescription to all players.

I was slandered by contractual fighting. I have never violated the rules of the game (there is experience of playing on a foreign server). I went to the first place in the tournament, and from the submission of a mean player to an inexperienced (or bribable, or incompetent) administrator, the account was blocked. My fault in this is not. For this error, either the administrator who made the decision or the player who filed the complaint must answer, knowing that the fight is not under the contract. They want to make me guilty: to increment the subsequent locks for an extended time, to deprive me of the artifact that I sought for a week, and expose an unfair player.


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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2018, 00:48 
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are there not war quests? since cccp & pride clans work together I assumed that is what you were doing when I saw the battle between you and hevi in the tavern


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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2018, 03:46 
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Seriously? 9 war points are such a huge advantage! 100 block account and we can by -3% attack! Well done, put your brain in place, please.


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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2018, 04:02 
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AlexOsmi wrote:
Seriously? 9 war points are such a huge advantage! 100 block account and we can by -3% attack! Well done, put your brain in place, please.


who said anything about war points? maybe it was about increasing the attack #. being as I've just started getting the war quests I really have no idea what they were up to but attacking an ally for no reason would be odd

and just an fyi, your rudeness does nothing to further your friends plea of innocence you would have done better by keeping quiet if that comment was the best you had to offer


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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2018, 14:11 
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FairyLite wrote:
AlexOsmi wrote:
Seriously? 9 war points are such a huge advantage! 100 block account and we can by -3% attack! Well done, put your brain in place, please.


who said anything about war points? maybe it was about increasing the attack #. being as I've just started getting the war quests I really have no idea what they were up to but attacking an ally for no reason would be odd

and just an fyi, your rudeness does nothing to further your friends plea of innocence you would have done better by keeping quiet if that comment was the best you had to offer
Most of what is being said here are misunderstandings, so I think we can set that aside.

I think these should not be punishable offenses (let alone ban worthy):
#Passing flags to each other - it is a very organic strategy within the game
#Hitting legitimate players that don't temple or are idle, perhaps 100 to 0 them, -- if you punish this then you are punishing players for making strong plays and that is not the goal to keep people in the game
#Double Loss battles -- how could any double loss result battle provide a staged benefit?

Vitnet should not be banned for these offenses.
I hope that the admin can take closer looks at the information being provided for accusations, of both trivial and large, and ensure they are not banning players on auto-pilot.

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PostPosted: 03 Oct 2018, 06:20 
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It is true that the exchange of flags between players is allowed in the game.
But it has to be solely the transfer of a flag, witghout any additional advantages, like hero experience, resources, faction or war points.
The minimal punishment for a staged battle is ban for 3 days.
Given the fact that you've received low advantage in the battle you've been punished for, you've been punished only for 1 day, instead of 3.
We check each case separately, we don't inform players, how exactly we check battles.
It is normal that in some cases there may be a ban, in other cases a warning.
We kindly ask you to be more careful in the future during the exchange of flags and hide big amounts of troops in the sanctuary.


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